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domino effect

English translation: explanation of the domino “theory”

07:03 Aug 16, 2003



Elisabeth Toda-v.Galen
France
Local time: 22:00
English term or phrase: domino effect
I’m a student taking a psychology/sociology course, in which my teacher says this is an example of the domino effect:
Let’s say a couple has two children. The husband is German and his wife is Italian. They decide that they shall educate their sons differently; the older boy will be taught both German and Italian, but the younger boy will learn German only. The bilingual/monolingual system in which they will be home schooled is the domino effect.
I found the following definition of the expression “domino effect”: A cumulative effect produced when one event initiates a succession of similar events.
My question is: Am I overlooking a linguistic issue here? I’d really appreciate your comments & ideas. I hope someone can enlighten my understanding on this matter.
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Selected answer: explanation of the domino “theory”
Explanation:
roughly, the domino effect is the fact that all that is taught to one, will rub off (or contaminate is bad) on all persons around him.

I think that they just teach 2 languages to the first, and one to the second and see if the first will “naturally” teach the other.

ref : Larousse (french) encyclopedia

typo above (contaminate IF bad)

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In the end, will both speak the 2 languages. Probably.

The original (political) theory was developed by the Americans. A lack of firmness leading a state to communism would (could) cause the same evolution in neighbouring states (a row of dominos falling over due to the unsteadiness of only one. )

Grading comment

Hello again! First of all, I’d like to give a special thanks to Elisabeth Toda-v.Galen for mentioning the domino theory and its historical origin, as well as the direct relation to the scenario given by my teacher. She explained it like this:
“roughly, the domino effect is the fact that all that is taught to one[in this case, the first child], will rub off (or contaminate if bad) on all persons around him [his younger brother].

I think that they just teach 2 languages to the first, and one to the second and see if the first will “naturally” teach the other.

ref : Larousse (french) encyclopedia

In the end, will both speak the 2 languages. Probably.

The original (political) theory was developed by the Americans. A lack of firmness leading a state to communism would (could) cause the same evolution in neighbouring states (a row of dominos falling over due to the unsteadiness of only one. )

Wonderful!
***********
Thank you Dr. Giuli Kvrivishvili for providing another possibility: Chomsky. Today I presented all these interesting ideas to my teacher, who could not believe all the effort I put to understand his lesson, with all of your kind help of course. The end of the story is, yes, both children learned the two languages. A classic example of domino effect! Thank you all!
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SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
5 +8 Our argument and confusion is all Noam Chomsky’s fault :-))

DGK T-I
5 +3 There has got to be more to the story than this.
Fuad Yahya
5 +2 Chomsky domino effect
David Moore
3 +3 See explanation
IanW (X)
3 +1 explanation of the domino “theory”
Elisabeth Toda-v.Galen
3 +1 below
Alwin27

Discussion entries: 0

Explanation:
Here’s how I understand it:
It means that the younger child will learn Italian at home through his brother: one domino “knocking” another one into a certain linguistic frame of mind.

IanW (X)
Local time: 22:00
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in pair: 235

Explanation:
What is the conclusion of the story? How does it end? What is the supposed lesson or “moral”? If this is a setting that is supposed to invite students to imagine various possible ensuing scenarios, what are some of the scenarios discussed? What point was the teacher was trying to illustrate?

Answers to such questions could help illuminate what the teacher meant by “domino effect.” Not that his usage is standard, mind you, but it may just be possible to figure out what he was trying to say.

Reading the answers provided by my colleagues, I am struck by the contextual shift from a story about language acquisition in a psychology/sociology class to geopolitics. How did this shift happen?

Sentence structure correction: \”What point was the teacher trying to illustrate?\” I used the verb \”was\” twice above. I apologize.

Fuad Yahya
Native speaker of: Arabic, English
PRO pts in pair: 893

Explanation:
roughly, the domino effect is the fact that all that is taught to one, will rub off (or contaminate is bad) on all persons around him.

I think that they just teach 2 languages to the first, and one to the second and see if the first will “naturally” teach the other.

ref : Larousse (french) encyclopedia

typo above (contaminate IF bad)

In the end, will both speak the 2 languages. Probably.

The original (political) theory was developed by the Americans. A lack of firmness leading a state to communism would (could) cause the same evolution in neighbouring states (a row of dominos falling over due to the unsteadiness of only one. )

Elisabeth Toda-v.Galen
France
Local time: 22:00
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in pair: 12

Grading comment

Hello again! First of all, I’d like to give a special thanks to Elisabeth Toda-v.Galen for mentioning the domino theory and its historical origin, as well as the direct relation to the scenario given by my teacher. She explained it like this:
“roughly, the domino effect is the fact that all that is taught to one[in this case, the first child], will rub off (or contaminate if bad) on all persons around him [his younger brother].

I think that they just teach 2 languages to the first, and one to the second and see if the first will “naturally” teach the other.

ref : Larousse (french) encyclopedia

In the end, will both speak the 2 languages. Probably.

The original (political) theory was developed by the Americans. A lack of firmness leading a state to communism would (could) cause the same evolution in neighbouring states (a row of dominos falling over due to the unsteadiness of only one. )

Wonderful!
***********
Thank you Dr. Giuli Kvrivishvili for providing another possibility: Chomsky. Today I presented all these interesting ideas to my teacher, who could not believe all the effort I put to understand his lesson, with all of your kind help of course. The end of the story is, yes, both children learned the two languages. A classic example of domino effect! Thank you all!

Explanation:
is obviously what your teacher should have called it; the “real” domino effect is, to me, the original, as defined by various contributors above, concerning a series of “dominos”.

Accordingly, I am withdrawing my earlier (possibly rather less than charitable) comments on your teacher.

David Moore
Local time: 22:00
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in pair: 884

Explanation:
If that`s all the teacher had to say, then I wonder whether there is such thing as a domino-effect here. And in general, life is a large domino-effect. That`s why most countries (if not all of them) have culture and traditions. This pattern also happens in the family. In any case, from the above info of Wilton, there is nothing that would explain a domino effect. We can only assume what he/she meant. It is better to ask the teacher personally what he/she meant with that example.

Chomsky`s theory is also what Confucius (the founder of confucianism) stated. When the leader is virtuous, then others would follow till the whole state becomes virtuous.

But in any case, the teacher Wilton refers to is very vague about what precisely this domino effect is.

Alwin27
Local time: 22:00
Native speaker of: Japanese, Dutch

Explanation:
Our argument and confusion is all Noam Chomsky’s fault :-))
(Noam Chomsky being a famous and influential, perhaps controversial, linguisticist and thinker and someone that people in the asker’s (and the asker’s teacher’s) discipline often think about quite a lot.

The concept in the question seems as if it is likely to come from what Chomsky calls “the real domino effect” which (he goes out of his way to say himself) is different from the normal use of “domino effect” (cumulative events like domino’s balanced on their end in a row, the first one falling over and knocking over the next, and so on down the line).
So your teacher isn’t wrong – the concept is just a misnomer to poor innocent translators like us and students like you, who haven’t met what nice Mr.Chomsky said. It’s not the normal use of ‘domino effect’ but it makes sense as an allusion to Chomsky.

“The domino theory was a United States political theory advanced by both liberal and conservative Americans during the Cold War. It asserted that if one country were taken over by Communists, neighbouring countries would fall like dominos. “

BUT:
“Some leftist academics, notably Noam Chomsky, believe that the “real domino theory” is that if one country successfully developed itself into a successful socialist state independent of foreign interference, other countries would follow by example. Chomsky called this the “threat of a good example” and believes it is the main reason for American intervention in otherwise insignificant countries such as Cuba, Guatemala, East Timor, and Angola. This view is popular with many socialists who belive the failure of socialism was the result of an elaborate US-led plot to descredit the ideology and destroy or sabotauge it in every country before it ever had a chance to succeed. Many critics dismiss this “domino theory” as an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory, that fails to explain the longtime survival of socialist regimes in North Korea, Vietnam, and Cuba, as well as elected socialist governments in democratic countries like France and Canada”

“Chomsky has repeatedly emphasized his theory that much of the United States’ foreign policy is based on the “threat of a good example” (which he says is another name for the domino theory). The “threat of a good example” is that a country could successfully develop independently from United States’ influences, thus presenting a model for other countries, including countries in which the United States has strong economic interests. This, Chomsky says, has prompted the United States to repeatedly intervene to quell “socialist” or other “independence” movements in regions of the world where it has no significant economic or safety interests. In one of his most famous works, What Uncle Sam Really Wants, Chomsky uses this particular theory as an explantion for the United States’ interventions in Guatemala, Laos, Nicaragua, and Grenada.”

TYPO: \”like dominos balanced on their end in a row\”, all this discussion of apostrophes is getting in to the system. :-))

To boil it down: Chomsky means \”the threat of a good example\” and that\’s what I think your teacher is talking about – and I can see how Chomski got there, but without knowing I would never have guessed (from the normal meaning of \’domino effect\’).

(For the second \”red\” ref. below, put \’Noam Chomsky\’ in the search box on the page that appears and on the page you get, search on \’domino\’, if you would like to check.)

Now we know what the teacher said when asked about it, I\’d say that \”knock-on effect\” would have been a better expression to use than \”domino effect\” (since the teacher wasn\’t apparently consciously referring to a cascade of causes & effects, but just the two people – and wasn\’t using an allusion to Chomski, which would have been rather suitable. never mind :-))))
Best wishes to everyone
Giuli

Reference: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domino_theory
Reference: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsk

DGK T-I
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:00
PRO pts in pair: 401

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The Domino Effect

The domino effect refers to how one action can have a knock-on effect to related subjects. Knock one domino over, and you don’t just affect the first domino, but all the ones who stand in its path.

In economics, the domino theory is often used to explain how an economic problem in one country can spread like a contagion or domino effect to similar countries and firms.

Examples of the domino effect in economics

  • Debt crisis – 2020-13 Bond yields rise in Greece, causes rising bond yields in other Eurozone economies.
  • Credit crunch 2007/08 – a shortage of finance in the US spreads throughout the world and to all banks.
  • Devaluation – 1997. A fall in a currency in S.E. Asia caused international investors to lose confidence and sell similar currencies in other Asian economies.
  • Negative regional multiplier effect. One major manufacturing firm closes down; this causes unemployment, outward migration of labour, other firms going out of business, declining real incomes.

How the domino effect works

In 2020, when investors realised Greece was at risk of insolvency and bonds were at risk of default, it changed market sentiment. Firstly, investors sold Greek bonds, causing a rapid rise in Greek bond yields.

(Greece is not on this graph, but Greek bond yields rose to over 25% in Jan 2020.

However, this change in market sentiment and loss in confidence caused investors to lose confidence in other Eurozone debt markets. Here the big effect was confidence. Previously investors felt Euro bonds were very secure. However, the realisation that countries in the Euro were not immune meant investors demanded higher bond yields. (In fact, investors realised Euro bonds were riskier because there was no lender of last resort)

The problem is that when investors start to sell, other economies started to experience liquidity shortages. Italy, Ireland and Spain were not insolvent but without the ability to create money, they relied on investors buying a regular quantity of bonds. With the change in market sentiment, bond yields rose, and this further added to the lack of confidence in the bond market.

Rising bond yields and fears over government debt levels also caused a change in fiscal policy. European governments felt that in response to rising bond yields, they should cut spending and increase taxes (in short austerity). However, this austerity had a knock on effect on economic growth. In a period of weak recovery, cutting government spending causes a further fall in economic growth. Lower economic growth has a negative effect on tax revenues worsening the government’s debt position.

If there had been no crisis in Greece, this domino effect would have been much less noticeable in other Eurozone economies.

The crisis was averted when the ECB made commitments to intervene in the bond market and offer sufficient liquidity.

Devaluation and S.E. Asian Crisis

The Asian financial crisis of 1997 refers to a macroeconomic shock experienced by several Asian economies – including Thailand, Philippines, Malaysia, South Korea and Indonesia. Typically countries experienced rapid devaluation and capital outflows as investor confidence turned from over-exuberance to contagious pessimism as the structural imbalances in the economy became more apparent.

Credit crisis

The credit crisis was a classic example of a domino effect starting from a rise in mortgage defaults (often based in a small number of US states like Florida)

  • US increase interest rates – this causes mortgage repayments to become unaffordable for many who had taken out ‘subprime mortgages’
  • Mortgage defaults rise. Banks lose money and sell repossessed houses onto a falling housing market.
  • House price falls cause a negative wealth effect.
  • European banks who had lent money to mortgage companies now lose money and become short of liquidity.
  • The general shortage of liquidity in the financial system causes panic and loss of confidence. Bank lending falls sharply causing an economic recession and further declines in spending.
  • More on credit crisis

Feedback loop

Multiplier effect – An initial change in injections causes a bigger final change in GDP.

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